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Post by Admin - Bob Adams on Jun 3, 2007 20:58:15 GMT -5
It's June now, and that usually means wildly fluctuating weather, with broiling temperatures punctuated by raucus thunderstorms, deadly calms, and violent lunar tides.
Hey, isn't this what you've been waiting for all winter?
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Post by Admin - Bob Adams on Jun 7, 2007 21:30:42 GMT -5
Here's the raw results from tonight. I won't have time to work out the details because I'm going to be out of town through Monday, so if anyone (Spirit?) wants to run the numbers through a scoring program, I'd appreciate it.
For boats that started with the "A" class (under 30'), subtract 5 minutes. For boats that started with the "B" class (over 30') subtract 10 minutes. This is in chronological order.
46:44 Silver Bullet
48:20 Bruja
52:02 #100 Blazer
53:52 Elfin
55:32 Flying Cloud
58:32 Rambuncious
1:00:40 #4 Melges 24
1:01:56 Seahorse
1:03:18 Caliente
1:03:40 #A8013
1:04:02 Etchells #1200
1:06:13 First 285 (Falancar?)
1:08:41 Schock Therapy
1:09:03 Phoenix
1:09:57 Kari
1:12:06 Paikea
1:12:15 Pale Rider
1:22:13 Arara
1:23:32 Easting
1:25:31 Marie Rita?
1:27:23 Saba
Full Tilt - RC was Joyce, her nephew Derek, J.R., Janal, and me.
Wind SW8-16
Course A Class: EWNES
Course B Class: DWNES
Beer: Cooper Ale, Bud Light, Corona
Pizza: Cheese, and Meatball
Cigars: Macanudo
Mistakes with Air Horn: Joyce (twice)
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Post by Flying Cloud on Jun 8, 2007 6:04:10 GMT -5
We need to all start sailing by the rules of racing and seamanship. Rule No.1 is SAFETY. We need to pick a radio channel to monitor -- CHANNEL 72 -- so all the boats can assist in the event of an emergency. Class A's start looks like a jail break because the boats consistently sail over the line early and the committee never makes a general recall. Committee needs to sound the general recall and Class A can go behind Class B for a new rolling start. If a single boat is over early (and committee can call out the boats/sail numbers over channel 72), the penalty is around the ends for a restart. IMPORTANT: Don't try "ducking back down" the line (it only makes a bad situation more dangerous). Finally, Class B does not keep clear of the starting area during the Class A start. If during the Class A start a Class B boat is within 5 committee boat lengths of the line and between the pin and boat -- it's DSQ/ Not Racing. Class B must stay out of the starting box and stop using the Class A boats as "blockers".  |
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Post by Admin - Bob Adams on Jun 9, 2007 19:29:15 GMT -5
Incorporating VHF into our races isn't a bad idea, and it would sure make it easier to get everyone the info on the course and any important details (especially when the course board is put up only a couple minutes before the first warning). The Branford YC Wednesday races always use the radio to notify the fleet of the courses, and I haven't seen them have any problems. We'll still use the course board, but we should think about also utilizing VHF.
Especially these days when anyone can buy a decent handheld unit for well under $100.
B Class definitely needs to stay out of the starting box until after the A Class starting signal is sounded. Actually, I've always wondered why not start the larger boats first the way most weekend races are run?
Boats over the line early are expected to follow the rules and restart themselves. This week as RC, I called the names of the three boats I saw that were over early, and at least two of them made the effort to cross the line again. I doubt that they heard me, but apparently they knew they were over early and corrected it on their own.
General recalls are a very rare thing on Thursdays, and I've only seen them used in the event of the RC making a major mistake with the starting sequence. It's very difficult to recall the fleet, since you rarely can hear the horn or are looking for a flag anytime after the start. In any event, Thursday racing is traditionally an informal event, where there are no protests and minimal penalties.
These are just my opinions, and discussion is welcome.
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Post by Admin - Bob Adams on Jun 10, 2007 11:03:17 GMT -5
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Post by spirit on Jun 11, 2007 20:47:40 GMT -5
We need to all start sailing by the rules of racing and seamanship. Rule No.1 is SAFETY. We need to pick a radio channel to monitor -- CHANNEL 72 -- so all the boats can assist in the event of an emergency. Class A's start looks like a jail break because the boats consistently sail over the line early and the committee never makes a general recall. Committee needs to sound the general recall and Class A can go behind Class B for a new rolling start. If a single boat is over early (and committee can call out the boats/sail numbers over channel 72), the penalty is around the ends for a restart. IMPORTANT: Don't try "ducking back down" the line (it only makes a bad situation more dangerous). Finally, Class B does not keep clear of the starting area during the Class A start. If during the Class A start a Class B boat is within 5 committee boat lengths of the line and between the pin and boat -- it's DSQ/ Not Racing. Class B must stay out of the starting box and stop using the Class A boats as "blockers". You are kidding right?. YOU luffed me almost into the R/C, there was a star to starboard of me. He wouldnt tack out (he couldnt understand why I would make an unsafe, pointless unseamanlike move like that) and I was head to wind drifting into the R/C. And there were THREE minutes to go. Please explain the tactical advantage that you gained in an unscored, informal, fun race while putting three boats and crews at risk with three friggin minutes to go before the gun? Explain that to me. Please. Only one other boat has displayed such a deliberate disregard for safety in the years I have been there. What did it gain you? |
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Post by FLYING CLOUD on Jun 11, 2007 22:09:14 GMT -5
No, I am not kidding about safety. Being a pickle boat (like FLYING CLOUD), rather than a scratch boat (like SPIRIT), requires a bit of sailing skill. Luffing at the line is a safe way for a smaller and slower boat to start in a mixed fleet. Safe, if the windward boats duck below the boat luffing at the line. However, when the parade of faster windward boats attempts to roll over the luffing boat, they may be taken over the line. And, sailing into committee does seem like a very unsafe thing to do...especially with three minutes to go before the start of an unscored, friendly, informal race. Remember, I am allowed to luff at the start under the rules of racing and I gave you plenty of opportunity to keep clear of me. MOREOVER YOU MUST ALLOW THE BOATS ABOVE YOU TO KEEP CLEAR -- SO PLEASE LOOK FOR THE DANGER BELOW BEFORE YOU BLAST REACH ALONG THE LINE. Thanks.
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Post by spirit on Jun 12, 2007 6:21:36 GMT -5
No, I am not kidding about safety. Being a pickle boat (like FLYING CLOUD), rather than a scratch boat (like SPIRIT), requires a bit of sailing skill. Luffing at the line is a safe way for a smaller and slower boat to start in a mixed fleet. Safe, if the windward boats duck below the boat luffing at the line. However, when the parade of faster windward boats attempts to roll over the luffing boat, they may be taken over the line. And, sailing into committee does seem like a very unsafe thing to do...especially with three minutes to go before the start of an unscored, friendly, informal race. Remember, I am allowed to luff at the start under the rules of racing and I gave you plenty of opportunity to keep clear of me. MOREOVER YOU MUST ALLOW THE BOATS ABOVE YOU TO KEEP CLEAR -- SO PLEASE LOOK FOR THE DANGER BELOW BEFORE YOU BLAST REACH ALONG THE LINE. Thanks. That's a boatload of crap. You got a grudge leave it at the dock. I'm right there after every race, and open to discussion. This is windjammers thursday racing not the Americas Cup. Get a grip captain. |
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